"I will not be surprised at all if we are able to get them up here if the super committee is getting ready to produce tax increases," said Tim Chapman, chief operating office of Heritage Action for America.
In part, the activists said they don't want to engage yet because that would be a validation of the super committee idea, which they described as a Washington powerplay at its finest.
"We said after the 2010 election that it was going to be a holding pattern until 2012 when we can replace the Democrats in the Senate and the president," said Sal Russo, the Republican operative behind Tea Party Express. "It's hard to see how that super committee is going to make much progress."
But while tea party groups rail against the notion of consolidation of power in a few longtime Washington hands, old-guard conservative groups and lobbyists are presenting ideas for the 12-member panel to consider.
The National Taxpayers Union, a 40-year-old conservative group, has outlined 54 programs, subsidies and government inefficiencies that it says the super committee should trim. And the Heritage Foundation has released a savings plan that its lobbying arm will push on the Hill.
"Any damn fool can sit there and knock things down every day," said former Rep. David Obey (D-Wis.), who chaired the Appropriations Committee from 2007 to 2010 and now works at a lobbying firm founded by former House Majority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-Mo.). "It takes a more thoughtful person to try to put things together. ... [Tea partyers] seem to think it's a sin to compromise."
But David Kirkham, a tea party leader from Utah who is considering challenging Sen. Orrin Hatch in the state's Republican primary, insisted some tea partyers are willing to negotiate.
"We cannot just hold rallies and complain," he said. "We must solve and offer rational solutions. Any law that doesn't have bipartisan support has problems."
Kirkham is part of a 12-member "citizen debt commission" that was set up in June by FreedomWorks, the Washington-based conservative group run by former Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-Texas) that has claimed the tea party banner.
The citizen panel held its first conference call Wednesday night and has 11 field meetings scheduled in key states such as Florida, Ohio and Indiana in the coming weeks. Nearly half of the meetings will be held in Utah, where FreedomWorks is working to unseat Hatch.
The goal is to come up with a plan that reduces the national debt by at least $9 trillion and deliver it to Congress by Thanksgiving — in time to counter whatever the deficit committee presents to Congress for a vote.
"We're not really trying to influence the super committee," said Dean Clancy, legislative counsel and vice president of health care policy at FreedomWorks. "We want to influence Congress' deliberations in December. ... The 2012 election is upon us and we are not going to get much more out of this Congress."
Vice President Joe Biden waits to conduct a mock swearing-in ceremony with Sen. Brian Schatz, D-Hawaii, in the Capitol's Old Senate Chamber, December 2, 2014. Schatz was sworn in to serve the remainder of his term since he was appointed to the seat after Sen. Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii, passed away.